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#1 Hot*Treasure*in*the*Snow

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 08:25 PM

Rights to not having sex in a relationship

People are not forced to have sex in a relationship if one or both finds it not cool. Sounds like a lecture for teenager? But it is for all and personal path to myself to always feel uncomfortable and pressured for sex because "it belongs" in to relationship.

It does not belong in anything automaticly, it is not a forced part of a relationship no matter how hard society and all pushes you to believe you so.

Thanks for my groom to making my dream true by making relationship and a marriage without having sex possible.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:57 AM

This topic has always created tension between men and women. If women feel it is ok to not have sex because they don't feel like it then it's fine. But if the man is the major bread winner and doesn't feel like paying for the bulk of the mortgage than the woman should step up. It's a fair trade.
No sex no heat for the winter . ;)

Of course the way to avoid all this is to have women pay half of everything from the start because it's only fair. The way to avoid the sex issue is to be in a good mood so that your woman will be in a good mood and to be ready to access any of the thousands of pornographic images in your mind in the day she doesn't feel like it. ;)

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 06:39 AM

This topic has always created tension between men and women. If women feel it is ok to not have sex because they don't feel like it then it's fine. But if the man is the major bread winner and doesn't feel like paying for the bulk of the mortgage than the woman should step up. It's a fair trade.
No sex no heat for the winter . Posted Image

Of course the way to avoid all this is to have women pay half of everything from the start because it's only fair. The way to avoid the sex issue is to be in a good mood so that your woman will be in a good mood and to be ready to access any of the thousands of pornographic images in your mind in the day she doesn't feel like it. Posted Image


I am so sorry if you have to pay to your girlfriend to have sex and I am sorry if she have to support her living like that Posted Image That is blackmailing and prostitution, not a joke as you let understand.

There is also asexual men and men with other sexual issues, don't forget that.

Sometimes it is a woman who does not want, sometimes it is a man who does not want and sometimes they both does not want.

People are not forced to be with a partner who they don't love, I am glad to not being a man and have to suffer with unpleasant chick just to buy sex from her. Sad male life.

Everyone are free to choose to themselves.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 12:46 PM

I am so sorry if you have to pay to your girlfriend to have sex and I am sorry if she have to support her living like that Posted Image That is blackmailing and prostitution, not a joke as you let understand.

There is also asexual men and men with other sexual issues, don't forget that.

Sometimes it is a woman who does not want, sometimes it is a man who does not want and sometimes they both does not want.

People are not forced to be with a partner who they don't love, I am glad to not being a man and have to suffer with unpleasant chick just to buy sex from her. Sad male life.

Everyone are free to choose to themselves.



A lot of dating and marriage is actually very similar to prostitution. In the beginning you take her out and pay for her. This cools last months before you have sex and by then you could have spent thousands on meals and gas. Then if it does not work out you are out money and never had sex.
If it does work out then hopefully bills are split in half but usually not. Usually with my friends they pay different bills but their wives pay for the stupid bills like the cheap water bill or the natural gas bill which only costs $100 a month. My friend ends lay the bulk of the mortgage and the electric bill.

In some ways prostitution is faster and cheaper. But then you never learn to relate to other human beings.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:13 PM

A lot of dating and marriage is actually very similar to prostitution. In the beginning you take her out and pay for her. This cools last months before you have sex and by then you could have spent thousands on meals and gas. Then if it does not work out you are out money and never had sex.
If it does work out then hopefully bills are split in half but usually not. Usually with my friends they pay different bills but their wives pay for the stupid bills like the cheap water bill or the natural gas bill which only costs $100 a month. My friend ends lay the bulk of the mortgage and the electric bill.

In some ways prostitution is faster and cheaper.

But then you never learn to relate to other human beings.


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I think you in any case, alredy failed your learning what is a human being and relating studying by your "my gf is my prostitute-speach"..

Best luck to you for better learning.

But according to your theory, maybe he does not give her multiple orgasms/month and therefore only gets 100 dollars/month from her? Maybe she would pay him more if he would be better in bed Posted Image

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 07:17 PM

I didn't mean it literally for my situation because she actually paid for stuff when we first met. I didn't have to pay for everything. Quality woman. But in a way it's like a payment plan if you think about it with most other girls who expect the dude to pay.




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Posted 27 October 2013 - 12:37 AM

The only way I can see this work out is only if both the girl and guy are asexual. Otherwise, it could lead to cheating or divorce.

I am also one of those asexual people. I will probably stay single for the rest of my life, because I don't want to have sex and have no interest in it. But if, in 1 in a million chance, I get into a relationship, my partner also has to be asexual and be fine with it. Not that this will ever happen.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:47 AM

The only way I can see this work out is only if both the girl and guy are asexual. Otherwise, it could lead to cheating or divorce.

I am also one of those asexual people. I will probably stay single for the rest of my life, because I don't want to have sex and have no interest in it. But if, in 1 in a million chance, I get into a relationship, my partner also has to be asexual and be fine with it. Not that this will ever happen.


Try asexual dating sites and other sites. I understood there is much of asexual girls with open arms waiting that guys drops in to their arms and are ready to free hugs Posted Image

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:03 PM

Nice to read!

I'm not asexual and have a sex drive/desire, but I have pain issues with sex. If it feels too painful at that moment, I won't do it. I have other issues with womanly things not to mention birth control too. I waited a long time to have sex given all these issues - it's a lot to take in and deal with. Which meant my partner would have to put up all this too, but luckily I found a good man. He understands and didn't pressure me, etc. Some guys did take issue with my issues often before this, but yes there's good people out there who won't mind and can work around it!

Sex is a bonus for me, not a need or an obligation etc. If my dude isn't in the mood, I don't want him to be doing it either just to satisfy me. Anyway, I know how to satisfy myself and he knows how to please himself too ;)

As for the money/sex/dating thing, I think if you can split bills, in the beginning or when things get serious, awesome. But with incomes not always matching etc, it isn't always do-able. Plus if money is an issue for dates, one could always be creative and find cheap or free things to do in their area. Boy and I do this sometimes. I recall one date night where I brought my art supplies and he got us a couple, coloring books for kids and we colored and drew pictures for that night.
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Posted 31 October 2013 - 03:59 AM

Definitely no obligation. I think thats why its good to discuss or explore sex earlier in a relationship and not be afraid of the issue though. Because if your are incompatible it won't work, but no one wants to be the person who suggests a break up over sex. So I think you should try get it out in the open before you have invested to much emotioanlly, even if you aren't doing it.

I am married and definitely feel i have the right not to do it any night I am not in the mood. Typically thoguh we mostly been on the same wavelength more or less. He wants it more than me at times which often been the case in relationships with me. I do try at least do some other things though or at least interact wth him as he does his thing. Sometimes that ends up getting me in the mood anyhow and if not its still some quality intimate time we have shared.

As for money/dating/sex, i never thought of it in that mindset. Men have paid for things because they wanted me to have a good time or wanted me to have something nice i like to think. Household financial situation has never played into how i behaved in the bedroom or elsewhere at all. That being said though in my relationships i have bribed BFs and now hubby to do things he hasn't wanted to before by promising a special sexual treat later, but its more a silly thing to persuade him to go to a socia or family event or do something he woulda eventually done anyway but at least feels better about it. Certianly dont think it makes me a prostitute lol.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:27 AM

Definitely no obligation. I think thats why its good to discuss or explore sex earlier in a relationship and not be afraid of the issue though. Because if your are incompatible it won't work, but no one wants to be the person who suggests a break up over sex. So I think you should try get it out in the open before you have invested to much emotioanlly, even if you aren't doing it.

I am married and definitely feel i have the right not to do it any night I am not in the mood. Typically thoguh we mostly been on the same wavelength more or less. He wants it more than me at times which often been the case in relationships with me. I do try at least do some other things though or at least interact wth him as he does his thing. Sometimes that ends up getting me in the mood anyhow and if not its still some quality intimate time we have shared.

As for money/dating/sex, i never thought of it in that mindset. Men have paid for things because they wanted me to have a good time or wanted me to have something nice i like to think. Household financial situation has never played into how i behaved in the bedroom or elsewhere at all. That being said though in my relationships i have bribed BFs and now hubby to do things he hasn't wanted to before by promising a special sexual treat later, but its more a silly thing to persuade him to go to a socia or family event or do something he woulda eventually done anyway but at least feels better about it. Certianly dont think it makes me a prostitute lol.



How are the bills split up in your house? Split 50/50? Who pays more?

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:38 AM

How are the bills split up in your house? Split 50/50? Who pays more?

We have 1 joint checking account that our salaries go into and we pay all the bills from. Yes he makes more and I most likel spend more on average, but I don't factor that in to what I do or don't do in the bedroom. Neither does he as far as I know lol

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 08:05 AM

We have 1 joint checking account that our salaries go into and we pay all the bills from. Yes he makes more and I most likel spend more on average, but I don't factor that in to what I do or don't do in the bedroom. Neither does he as far as I know lol


What exactly don't you factor in what you do or don't do in the bedroom?

I could use your answer as a reference in case I don't earn more than my spouse.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 01:17 PM

We have 1 joint checking account that our salaries go into and we pay all the bills from. Yes he makes more and I most likel spend more on average, but I don't factor that in to what I do or don't do in the bedroom. Neither does he as far as I know lol


Who does the bulk of the house work?

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:11 PM

I give it a month before A you get divorced or B he gets so f**k*ng frustrated he is cheating on you or he is rubbing one out on your face. Please people SEX IS A WONDERFUL THING ESP WHEN YOUR IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP AND YOUR GIRL OR GUY LOVES TO PLEASE YOU !!

No sex In a marriage really WTf are you getting married for !

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:28 PM

I give it a month before A you get divorced or B he gets so f**k*ng frustrated he is cheating on you or he is rubbing one out on your face. Please people SEX IS A WONDERFUL THING ESP WHEN YOUR IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP AND YOUR GIRL OR GUY LOVES TO PLEASE YOU !!

No sex In a marriage really WTf are you getting married for !


I know a guy who did everything with his fiancée before marriage. As they were getting I to the airplane for their honeymoon she informed him she wanted a celibate marriage. She is the kind of woman that rhymes with the word bunt. Seriously. He thought she was kidding and would give in eventually. For the next SIX years they loves together within getting one BJ a year and sometimes a handy. What a waste of six years.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:27 PM

Nice to read!

I'm not asexual and have a sex drive/desire, but I have pain issues with sex. If it feels too painful at that moment, I won't do it. I have other issues with womanly things not to mention birth control too. I waited a long time to have sex given all these issues - it's a lot to take in and deal with. Which meant my partner would have to put up all this too, but luckily I found a good man. He understands and didn't pressure me, etc. Some guys did take issue with my issues often before this, but yes there's good people out there who won't mind and can work around it!

Sex is a bonus for me, not a need or an obligation etc. If my dude isn't in the mood, I don't want him to be doing it either just to satisfy me. Anyway, I know how to satisfy myself and he knows how to please himself too Posted Image

As for the money/sex/dating thing, I think if you can split bills, in the beginning or when things get serious, awesome. But with incomes not always matching etc, it isn't always do-able. Plus if money is an issue for dates, one could always be creative and find cheap or free things to do in their area. Boy and I do this sometimes. I recall one date night where I brought my art supplies and he got us a couple, coloring books for kids and we colored and drew pictures for that night.


Yes, pain is a huge factor what comes to having sex. It is not always simple, there is lot of things which can make it sometimes impossible, sometimes it is a man who cannot or want sex and sometimes it is a woman. Physical or mental factors or both. It is indefinite happiness to find a soul mate and it is immeasurable valuable to marry this person. It is union and loving bond between 2 person and nothing else matters.

I am glad you found a guy who have a good and warm heart and understanding, good men are not easy to found. And when given a gift like that, hold it! lol

Good luck to you 2 and life long happiness Posted Image

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 08:52 PM

Yes, pain is a huge factor what comes to having sex. It is not always simple, there is lot of things which can make it sometimes impossible, sometimes it is a man who cannot or want sex and sometimes it is a woman. Physical or mental factors or both. It is indefinite happiness to find a soul mate and it is immeasurable valuable to marry this person. It is union and loving bond between 2 person and nothing else matters.

I am glad you found a guy who have a good and warm heart and understanding, good men are not easy to found. And when given a gift like that, hold it! lol

Good luck to you 2 and life long happiness Posted Image




Want to fight again? Posted Image "big boy" is calling a girl as gay, poor you, according to study tells about your secrets about having a gay fetish, don't worry I am not going to tell anyone Posted Image And as it has been told you before, stop insulting me as a man, as you know I am not and you also know that is insult, I report your insults every time.

And No. YOU go to live with your siblings if YOU want a friend.

We label our relationship with my spouse, we customize our romantic marriage to us. Some people don't want or need sex or they have other reasons to not make it happend. What other people does or not in their rls and marriage is not YOUR business. YOUR business is ONLY YOUR OWN relationship and YOUR OWN marriage.

Leave other people and their marriages alone, it does not belong to you what peoples private parts are doing or not. Choose to yourself, other people can choose to themselves.

It is not any more or less pimping to you if people have sexless or sexfull marriages, stop worrying, just pick a girl with sex drive.



Hold up a sec. I wasn't trying to insult you. I really thought you were a gay guy. I thought you'd said in the past you were a guy. My mistake.

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 01:18 AM

I know a guy who did everything with his fiancée before marriage. As they were getting I to the airplane for their honeymoon she informed him she wanted a celibate marriage. She is the kind of woman that rhymes with the word bunt. Seriously. He thought she was kidding and would give in eventually. For the next SIX years they loves together within getting one BJ a year and sometimes a handy. What a waste of six years.


You said it ! Holy sh*t 6 years f*ck that what a waste damn poor guy ! This is simple I will not marry a woman who is cold does not like sex and will not learn to how please me. Because if I put that ring on your finger it's for life and I am going to try every day & or night to please her, and if I don't know how well she will just have to teach me ;)

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 02:03 AM

Who does the bulk of the house work?


Not sure how this is relevent at all? But if you must know we have a cleaning service, i do most of the cooking/dishes and laundry but he does the lawns and handwashes our cars most weekends when its warm, he does trash etc, really dont feel there is an imbalance, nor would it matter.

What exactly don't you factor in what you do or don't do in the bedroom?

I could use your answer as a reference in case I don't earn more than my spouse.


Mostly how i am feeling/wanting, how he has been treating my recently, i.e gone out of his way to be thoughtful and romatnic, sometimes if i know he had a rough or stressful day or days, finally and rarely any silly bribes I mentioned before or birthday/holdiday/vaca celebrations....

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:07 AM

Why is there so much moderation on these forums ? What happened to freedom of speech? I'm missing a lot of stuff from my posts.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 02:51 PM

It's not about the house work or doing wash cleaning toilets,,, this is about taking care of your wife's & your husband sexual needs every day ! Now you might not have sex every day but I want to make sure my wife is happy and satisfied sexually because If I am not doing that she might find another man or woman to take care of her needs ;)

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 03:50 PM

Why is there so much moderation on these forums ? What happened to freedom of speech? I'm missing a lot of stuff from my posts.


You still have your freedom to choose sexual active partner, don't miss that.

As much as freedom to us to choose not sexual active relationship. Some people don't have sex drive and that is perfectly ok. Sexual relationship is a choice. Non-sexual relationship/marriage is a choice too Posted Image I am his nun and he is my monk Posted Image

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 02:50 PM

You still have your freedom to choose sexual active partner, don't miss that.

As much as freedom to us to choose not sexual active relationship. Some people don't have sex drive and that is perfectly ok. Sexual relationship is a choice. Non-sexual relationship/marriage is a choice too Posted Image I am his nun and he is my monk Posted Image


Your man has plenty of free internet porno to keep himself occupied inbetween your infrequent meetings.

It's not about the house work or doing wash cleaning toilets,,, this is about taking care of your wife's & your husband sexual needs every day ! Now you might not have sex every day but I want to make sure my wife is happy and satisfied sexually because If I am not doing that she might find another man or woman to take care of her needs ;)


If you like having sex and your girlfriend does not then go find a woman who is willing.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 03:15 PM

Your man has plenty of free internet porno to keep himself occupied inbetween your infrequent meetings.




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Posted 05 November 2013 - 07:27 PM

He hates porn Posted Image


You are both lying to yourselves. Check the search history on his computer. If you find no search history that means he is deleting it. Every guy likes porn.

I used to think I didnt like porn but only because I believed it to be bad. I've come to accept it as not good or bad.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:38 PM

You are both lying to yourselves. Check the search history on his computer. If you find no search history that means he is deleting it. Every guy likes porn.

I used to think I didnt like porn but only because I believed it to be bad. I've come to accept it as not good or bad.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:55 PM

Oh my goodness, if you experience pain during sex, you need to visit the gynecologist!
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:14 AM

Oh my goodness, if you experience pain during sex, you need to visit the gynecologist!


I take it this is for me Posted Image I have and they have an idea of what it might be. A condition called Endometriosis. It is when stuff that normally flushes out when you have your period, stays there and/or moves to other places in the body where it doesn't belong (kind of like cancer; in bad cases it can move to places like the lungs and even brain. When it gets in the brain, I think it pretty much kills you.. ). It can cause issues with periods, sex and fertility, though every woman is different and symptoms can vary. There's no known cure and you can have treatments or surgery to help ease it. Some women have multiple surgeries and some women try all that, but have to turn to just trying to manage the pain and live as comfortable as they can.

Some women in my family have had issues that point to it and my sister has been the first to really seek answers and get help for her issues. Unfortunately, she fell under the type that has done everything she could and surgery/treatments haven't helped much. So she manages the pain in what ways that work for her and that is all she can do.

Since the symptoms I get aren't severe enough to impact any part of my life yet, I opted not to try the surgery route anytime soon. Only if things change and get worse. My boy and I have figured out ways to help manage my pain with sex. It is never 100 percent pain free, but I/we manage. Posted Image
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:13 AM

Oh my goodness, if you experience pain during sex, you need to visit the gynecologist!


It is not always useful. And how much a woman should suffer at first place that she could have sex just because of her partner anyway... Some men are cruel and demand their women to do hurtful things to get their pleasure. And some men are good men and don't wish their wifes to get hurt.

In some cases they even make vagina stretching in anestesia.. But why should a woman suffer maybe years of medical/surgerial treatments just to offer sex to a man (assuming she does not have desire for it).

There is NO reason. And some guys appreciate their partners and don't want to hurt them.

Rare are these good men, really rare, but when find one, never let him go Posted Image

Some women with problems are willing to suffer, that is their choice, their priority. They are free to choose their path, if that is a path of suffering, then they get suffering.

But it is not only path to go.

Sexless marriage is for both to choose. It is a thing which only belongs to certain couple. It is hilarious how some people think it is a threat for their personal sex life. Like when women see this post, EVERY each of them stops having sex. That is false hallusination since some women have great sex drive. But for some women who might think marriage without sex is impossible. I am telling it is not, it is just about finding the right guy to share happiness and love - without sex Posted Image

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:26 AM

I don't see how this is a big problem. It's ok to not want to have sex, just find someone similar to yourself.
It must be said though, although I do hear of people who consider themselves asexual, it must be very uncommon.

Thanks for my groom to making my dream true by making relationship and a marriage without having sex possible.

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Congratulations~ You have stated several times that he has signed a prenuptial agreement?

It seems to be possible. Our prenup says: NO SEX!!!

My weddings

our prenup contains: no sex, he cannot cut his hair Posted Image

And my love thanks of our prenup again Posted Image No pressures, no need for viagra Posted Image


Can you take a photo of this? You can remove all your personal information if you want. I just want to see the part that says "no sex" and "cannot cut hair".
Because usually the purpose of a prenuptial agreement is to decide how to divide the assets up when the marriage is dissolved e.g. rich guy wants to keep his money.
I've haven't heard of it being used to punish the act of consensual sex within the marriage. Does signing a prenup mean that a divorce will occur if the two of you decide to have sex? That seems a little odd.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 10:29 AM

I don't see how this is a big problem. It's ok to not want to have sex, just find someone similar to yourself.
It must be said though, although I do hear of people who consider themselves asexual, it must be very uncommon.




Congratulations~ You have stated several times that he has signed a prenuptial agreement?





Can you take a photo of this? You can remove all your personal information if you want. I just want to see the part that says "no sex" and "cannot cut hair".
Because usually the purpose of a prenuptial agreement is to decide how to divide the assets up when the marriage is dissolved e.g. rich guy wants to keep his money.
I've haven't heard of it being used to punish the act of consensual sex within the marriage. Does signing a prenup mean that a divorce will occur if the two of you decide to have sex? That seems a little odd.


Asexuality is one reason to not have sex but also some asexuals are having sex. According to information of asexuals about 1% of people are asexuals. Also there is lot of other reasons to not want or do it.

Legally here people can do different kind of agreements and prenups how the like. I understood in america that is also possible I think one of the famoust prenups in america is michael douglas and catherina zeta jones where she gets money of each year and a kid (in a case of divorce?) or something like that. Also music stars make agreements in america where they can demand this and that in to their "back rooms". With stars it is not about marriage but shows that law in america allows lot of variations of different kind of agreements. Prenups and agreement types in Asia I have no idea.

If using a word "prenup" it what thicks you up, maybe there would be another word in english which would fit better but with my dictionary it fits in. Prenup is what we are calling it.

Our spoken and written language is not english so you would not see "no sex" and "cannot cut hair".

It is legally possible to fit in YOUR rules in to YOUR marriage, you can set rules even in to a paper, and rather in to a paper, I recommend it Posted Image It also contains rules about our material stuff and my art. Different thing is which is "fair" in the eyes of court if one would disagree later. Only prenups, agreements and deals which are unconscionable (for example conscionable taxes when lending money - financial agreement between 2 person) are dissolved or cancel more fair in a court.

Court does not define what people can write in to their prenups, it can be what you want, if that is not illegal. (or you can write that too but you are getting caught, lol)

If we BOTH are willing to have sex later we can sign a new paper Posted Image If only other wants it, it is divorce. Think about it , most of people assume marriage contains sex. Well, mine does not. When it is on a paper after if something happends (my hubby goes crazy and rapes me or starts to push me to do it) I have got a paper he agreed to NOT have sex with me and KNEW it before married me. In my country there is lot of things which comes late and a for example rape inside a family was long time considered just "mans rights to take what belongs to him". Now, my hubby knows he have no this antiquity and false "right". Now, I am saving me with this prenup if something happends later and what comes to his hair that is my bonus Posted Image (he actually does not even want to ever cut his hair, it is like cutting his leg) And no, I am not going to send a picture of our prenup because it is our private agreement , when you could not see our signatures etc. further private information that could be any paper. Signatures makes agreements valid (if those are not forced by gun etc.). Otherwise, just let your pen or printer sing... Handwritten agreements are as valid as printed as long as there is signatures. Also depends of agreement, sometimes also witnesses agreement.

Also, fitting some humour in to your paper is not denyed (hair) .. I could sue him for it if he would cut his hair, but he does not want to cut it and I think I would not waste my moneys by going to court because of it.. It is just my bonus, prince groomys gift to his princess bride Posted Image Extra coddling Posted Image , bribes Posted Image a gift Posted Image

Some pictures of the weddings are coming much later Posted Image I, of course post a picture of my wedding dress and some other stuff Posted Image

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Ten Craziest Prenuptial Agreements

"For a husband not to watch more than one football game on Sundays during football season."

[url]http://www.mywedding.com/articles/ten-craziest-prenuptial-agreements/[/url]

Make your best shot when marrying Posted Image

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 02:52 PM

Personally I think they are both full of dog poop or maybe just the op is. But if it is true they will be divorced within 1 month. Just the way it is.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:24 PM

"cannot cut hair"


I think some cultures like the Amish, Jewish, and Muslims place great significance on hair. Religious men grow their hair long and refuse to cut it.

It is possible to have a sexless marriage. I heard of religious couples who never had sex before. There was 1 couple who didn't know what sex was, even when they were married! Both came from very religious, conservative families. They had to be taught that sex is actually responsible for creating babies!

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:15 AM

Our spoken and written language is not english so you would not see "no sex" and "cannot cut hair".

And no, I am not going to send a picture of our prenup because it is our private agreement , when you could not see our signatures etc. further private information that could be any paper. Signatures makes agreements valid (if those are not forced by gun etc.). Otherwise, just let your pen or printer sing... Handwritten agreements are as valid as printed as long as there is signatures. Also depends of agreement, sometimes also witnesses agreement.


I don't accept this as reason for why you would not take the photo. Take for example, this photo that I have uploaded
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I did a three-week language course in Korea. It is in Korean language so you probably won't understand, but it is all too simple to explain. 수료증 means diploma. 연세대학교 means Yonsei University. 4급 refers to me having completed the level 4 course in Korean. If there is anything else you want me to explain I can. I also removed my personal information, but I included a note saying "Hello Asianfanatics".

You can do this too. Because if you say the prenuptial agreement includes "no sex" and "cannot cut hair", then surely it will be written down, even if it is in another language. That way, I can verify for myself if you are telling the truth. You can remove all your private information it doesn't matter, all I want to see is that it is an official document and it says "no sex" and "cannot cut hair" (even in another language is ok).



Why is this important?

Basically, I've noticed a few things in this thread and others that seem really unusual. The prenup is a good example. You agree right that this prenup is very uncommon? Here are a few other things that are unusually uncommon:
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So you see there could be a few explanations for all of the above. Either you are the most luckiest girl in the entire universe (which is possible, congratulations if you are), you made a series of very dramatic grammatical errors, or the more parsimonious explanation is that you are not telling the truth.

This is why I asked for the photo.
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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:27 AM

I don't accept this as reason for why you would not take the photo. Take for example, this photo that I have uploaded

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I did a three-week language course in Korea. It is in Korean language so you probably won't understand, but it is all too simple to explain. 수료증 means diploma. 연세대학교 means Yonsei University. 4급 refers to me having completed the level 4 course in Korean. If there is anything else you want me to explain I can. I also removed my personal information, but I included a note saying "Hello Asianfanatics".

You can do this too. Because if you say the prenuptial agreement includes "no sex" and "cannot cut hair", then surely it will be written down, even if it is in another language. That way, I can verify for myself if you are telling the truth. You can remove all your private information it doesn't matter, all I want to see is that it is an official document and it says "no sex" and "cannot cut hair" (even in another language is ok).



Why is this important?

Basically, I've noticed a few things in this thread and others that seem really unusual. The prenup is a good example. You agree right that this prenup is very uncommon? Here are a few other things that are unusually uncommon:
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So you see there could be a few explanations for all of the above. Either you are the most luckiest girl in the entire universe (which is possible, congratulations if you are), you made a series of very dramatic grammatical errors, or the more parsimonious explanation is that you are not telling the truth.

This is why I asked for the photo.


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Your hobby might be to use your moderator powers wrong and look for "evidences" and point this and that of people you don't know. People have rights to be anonymous, they have rights to write things they want to tell and not to tell things which they don't want to tell. You need a new hobby, something what is searching your inner good self so you could let other people to live freely like they want. Attacking peoples throw like you do is mental violence. Asking evidences of peoples personal life is mental violence and black mailing "proves or it did not happend" . Like I said I send some pictures later and that is as much I want to show and that is all what stalkers are going to get Posted Image


How many boyfriends I have, who is my ex and who is my current is between me and my boyfriend.



Most hilarious thing I ever heard is that a guy would not give his number, haha!!! If guys don't tend to give numbers to you it does not mean they could not give it to someone they like Posted Image

Happy stalking, I hope you get something better to do. As a moderator you should know better than attack.

I think some cultures like the Amish, Jewish, and Muslims place great significance on hair. Religious men grow their hair long and refuse to cut it.

It is possible to have a sexless marriage. I heard of religious couples who never had sex before. There was 1 couple who didn't know what sex was, even when they were married! Both came from very religious, conservative families. They had to be taught that sex is actually responsible for creating babies!


Also native americans had this hair stuff. Also some people without religious reasons IDENTIFY themselves as long haired people. They never cut their hair because they FEEL it is strong part of them, just as leg or eye.

People are different, cultures are different.. Men are different.

There is lot of sexually "normal" people in marriags without having sex because of one reason or the other. Everyone could know it if they would read surveys, magazines, helping lines etc. and not even all couples want to get back into their sex life. Some people find it boring, sometimes people get old and stop wanting it meanwhile some people want sex till they die.

Religious people might be most "accepted" group who DOES NOT HAVE TO sex all the time and they don't become attacked because not having sex.

I guess I join to church just to say "we are religious, we have none sex" Posted Image

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:06 PM

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Your hobby might be to use your moderator powers wrong and look for "evidences" and point this and that of people you don't know. People have rights to be anonymous, they have rights to write things they want to tell and not to tell things which they don't want to tell. You need a new hobby, something what is searching your inner good self so you could let other people to live freely like they want. Attacking peoples throw like you do is mental violence. Asking evidences of peoples personal life is mental violence and black mailing "proves or it did not happend" . Like I said I send some pictures later and that is as much I want to show and that is all what stalkers are going to get Posted Image


How many boyfriends I have, who is my ex and who is my current is between me and my boyfriend.



Most hilarious thing I ever heard is that a guy would not give his number, haha!!! If guys don't tend to give numbers to you it does not mean they could not give it to someone they like Posted Image

Happy stalking, I hope you get something better to do. As a moderator you should know better than attack.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:51 PM

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1) I never asked for your private information. I specifically asked you to remove your private information, so that you can remain anonymous.
2) I never asked you to divulge anything that you haven't already written publicly. You have already said that you have signed a prenup 5 times on this forum. All I asked was that you show me proof of it without the private information.
3) See this search bar at the top right hand of your screen?

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You don't even have to be a member to use this. Why don't you explain to me what moderator powers I have used here.

4) Have I said anything that was a personal insult? Why don't you show me where. Or better yet, report me. I am a moderator, but I am also an AF user, and I am also accountable for my behaviour just like everyone else.
5) This is actually more offensive than anything that I have said:



6) You chose to tell the world about your prenup and your previous dating experiences. You are the one divulging information about yourself, and then you complain about people intruding on your private life if they happen to disbelieve what you say.
7) You are unusually defensive about proving something that should be easy to prove (if one is telling the truth). It took me a total of 5 mins to upload that photo of my Yonsei diploma with the information blacked out. Would you agree that a person caught up in a lie is more likely to be react that way than a person who is telling the truth?
8) Actually, I am ok with people saying all sorts of things on this forum (even lies). People can say whatever they want about themselves. The issue that drew my attention here is the fact that you have been saying pejorative things to other members like "[url="http://asianfanatics.net/forum/topic/789532-rights-to-not-having-sex-in-a-relationship/page__p__7281188#entry7281188"]not everyone is like you"[/url] when they voice an opposing opinion. That irks me a little to be honest.
9) I already feel like I know the answer to my previous questions/critiques. And so I leave it up to everyone else to make up their minds.


Yes, I reported of your blackmailing and threatening. You are blackmailing me and that is a crime. You are saying: If you don't show your private agreement to a wolrd, world keeps you a liar. That is blackmailing and a crime.

But learning from this, if I get a baby some day even I told hundred times in AF I would never do that, I will take a video clip to you when my baby is coming out of my vagina with doctors signature that I really got that baby . Then I guess I would prove against myself and make myself as a liar.. twice Posted Image (having sex after all and having a baby after all) .. oh wait.. I think I got a vampire baby some time ago, just before olive got preggo Posted Image I think my baby is 2 days older than his.

Yes, people post things which are imagenation and true and all between. Issue of yours is you are quilty of blackmailing if you demand someones private papers public OR that is lying. You are threatening , that is what is problem here. You are targeting me to be your blackmailed victim and focusing to one victims doings makes you a stalker. You are chasing me personally.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 06:30 PM

I don't need a document to think you might be lying ! There is not a single man I know who will enter into a sexless marriage PUHLEEEEEEASE !

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 08:40 PM

that's where u are wrong Mike, I know guys who don't want to be married to a non virgin, and this guy are even a virgin himselves, and is waiting for his wife to be ;) I find it so incredible cute though.
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