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#41 DrBroscientist

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:52 PM

^Not sure if srs. Logic = none. You know you're doin' it wrong when you compare porn with heroin.

#42 MichaelD

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:25 PM

so having sex with the aid of other people is not a mental form of cheating? If you aint doing it with me you are CHEATING! Whether its in your mind or in the flesh makes very little difference.


Let me see if I understand you;

So when I jerk off because you have neglected me for so long OR because you were away for a few days or just because I am just a little more horney than you today,,,,,,,,,,what your saying is I am cheating on you because I fantasy about another giving me a blow job ??? !! Oh darlin you have to be kidding or your sex life sucks,,,,,,, and if you think your husb or wife is only thinking of you when he/she is having an orgasm you are sadly mistaken. Masturbation is not cheating sweetie,,try it you might like it ;)

Edited by mjdibatt, 27 December 2012 - 02:26 PM.


#43 Happy Wonton

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:27 PM

Its unbelievable that

You are absolutely wrong. Not every man in this world will like to watch porn. Maybe 10% of men population is not interested at all.



To be honest, if your bf is obsessed with porn, I suggest you should be mentally prepared to break off with him anytime because he is likely to cheat on you.


Where did I say every man likes to watch porn, I am generalizing for the guys. And what logic is that? so if the bf watches porn, then hes likely to cheat? Get real. Where you come up with this...seriously. It would have been better stated that she should mentally prepared to break off with him because hes on a dating websites, not watching porn. Its funny how some of you people are after the bf watching porn and not him going on dating website. Posted Image

Now that porn is easily available and is already a multi- billion dollar industry, pornography or even talking about it isn’t a taboo anymore. Everyone has needs and watching porn is like expressing one's sexual urge which in turn is better than suppressing it. Say a guy dates a girl (who is a virgin and remains that way until marriage), what does he do then? Jerk off to Barney the purple dinosaur? Watching porn is not a bad thing as long you know it is not the "REAL THING"and you don’t replace it with the "REAL THING". I'm not going to sit here and tell you porn is ALL healthy but it has some pros and cons to it. Can porn take control of a guy's life? Sure. Do guys only think about porn? Sure. Can it affect you and your partner. Sure. But guys need it for sexual release and urges and it helps with stress...etc.. etc.... We can argue about this all we want but, this is fact, porn is around us and it would NEVER go away. There are very graphic sex scenes in movies for past 10 years so can a guy wank off to that? I mean its not porn? so its alright? Yes? No?

You may have given on why porn is a problem with cites and articles and I can easily dig up articles from doctors and specialist to counter you of how porn is not a big deal and is actually healthy. But, I don't judge on any of that, l judge by me and from other people's personal experiences. I know why I watch porn, its normal. Some ppl don't realize that few percentage of girls watch porn too, not just guys. So basically, about a good portion of population in the world watches porn so according to a few closeminded people here, us guys are unhealthy, we won't have a successful relationship, and we are cheaters. Just ridicoulous how you know what we think and why we do this. Get real.

#44 MichaelD

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:16 PM

Really ?? !! You must be a JOY to be married to ;) God bless your husband or wife. You see what I have learned in my short time on this little planet we live on is this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,everything does not fit into a tidy little box, we are emotional creatures some needing more than others. Like I said God bless you & your family. And porn and date sites are diff things Ashley Madison is there why ???? Match.com etc etc thats not porn,,,,,wake up !

I can see the conversation going this way;

Him - Hun could you give me head tonight I am really jacked up horney today !

Her- NO f**k*ng WAY ARE YOU CRAZY GO CONTROL YOURSELF NOW !!!!!

Him- Oh ok dear,,,,, she hears the front door close and him say I am going to the Home Depot or some other store or bar as he walks out the door and meets his fill in the blank and cheats on her because he is sooooooo tired of being rejected over and over again.

True story & it happens everyday & its not just the man walking out the door just as many women do the same f**k*ng thing and porn has zero to do with it.

#45 DrBroscientist

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:25 AM

Xiaoli I'd rather not walk around all day with a boner or cream myself seeing a 6/10 because I haven't fapped for 2 weeks straight.

Also why do you eat beyond your minimum caloric needs? You're a horrible person cos the money you spend on extra food could be used to save poverty stricken children in Africa. There is no need for you to buy said extra food so long as you learn to exercise food restraints. Furthermore why are you posting online? There is no need for you to. You are merely wasting electricity. The cash you spend could be used for charity and kids are dying cos you decided to post online rather than donate. Likewise you are knowingly and willingly contributing to climate change. You need to learn to exercise efficient energy usage.

As far as I can see there's like 1 other person ITT who agrees with you and the rest think you're delusional.

Edited by DrBroscientist, 28 December 2012 - 01:25 AM.


#46 zesstty

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:29 AM

actually it is true many men feel no need whatsoever to look outside their committed relationship for sexual stimulation. Many men are in fact decent and find their wives to be more than satisfying and work problems out by discussing it and not by going off by himself and watching porn.

porn is a problem with or without trust issues. it creates them because it isn't an innocent activity and men who are content in their relationship don't feel the need to use it. Show me a man using porn and 100% guarantee you there is some problem for him in the relationship or in his life that he isn't discussing.


True that many men feel no need? Based on what - THEIR word that they promise you they won't? I've talked to many men on this topic and they all admit to watching porn and even said those who claim not to watch are downright lying.


I don't classify porn as cheating and definitely won't have a problem with my future partner watching porn from time to time. Heck, even I watch porn on random off days. Anyone who is seriously against porn probably has insecurity issues.

Anyhoo, your definition of cheating is considerably warped compared to others - there is no need to argue.

#47 mlint007

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:57 AM

Every day I read this thread
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...and sometimes some get the side eye....

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So let me get this straight. If my man enjoy watching this...Posted Image
He's cheating?

There is nothing wrong with watching porn. Watching porn does not make you a cheater. It's called "FANTASY" for a reason. Now as far as the dating websites that is going to the extreme, that's a no-no..Hey I'm a girl and I have an extensive library...if you want some videos hit me up. I'll hook you up! LOL

#48 shar0n

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:32 AM

Every day I read this thread
http://i718.photobuc...zps181a73c3.jpg

...and sometimes some get the side eye....

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So let me get this straight. If my man enjoy watching this...http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww183/mlint007/dominatrix.jpg
He's cheating?

There is nothing wrong with watching porn. Watching porn does not make you a cheater. It's called "FANTASY" for a reason. Now as far as the dating websites that is going to the extreme, that's a no-no..Hey I'm a girl and I have an extensive library...if you want some videos hit me up. I'll hook you up! LOL

That's just great. Share the joy with me!

Its unbelievable that


Where did I say every man likes to watch porn, I am generalizing for the guys. And what logic is that? so if the bf watches porn, then hes likely to cheat? Get real. Where you come up with this...seriously. It would have been better stated that she should mentally prepared to break off with him because hes on a dating websites, not watching porn. Its funny how some of you people are after the bf watching porn and not him going on dating website. Posted Image

Now that porn is easily available and is already a multi- billion dollar industry, pornography or even talking about it isn’t a taboo anymore. Everyone has needs and watching porn is like expressing one's sexual urge which in turn is better than suppressing it. Say a guy dates a girl (who is a virgin and remains that way until marriage), what does he do then? Jerk off to Barney the purple dinosaur? Watching porn is not a bad thing as long you know it is not the "REAL THING"and you don’t replace it with the "REAL THING". I'm not going to sit here and tell you porn is ALL healthy but it has some pros and cons to it. Can porn take control of a guy's life? Sure. Do guys only think about porn? Sure. Can it affect you and your partner. Sure. But guys need it for sexual release and urges and it helps with stress...etc.. etc.... We can argue about this all we want but, this is fact, porn is around us and it would NEVER go away. There are very graphic sex scenes in movies for past 10 years so can a guy wank off to that? I mean its not porn? so its alright? Yes? No?

You may have given on why porn is a problem with cites and articles and I can easily dig up articles from doctors and specialist to counter you of how porn is not a big deal and is actually healthy. But, I don't judge on any of that, l judge by me and from other people's personal experiences. I know why I watch porn, its normal. Some ppl don't realize that few percentage of girls watch porn too, not just guys. So basically, about a good portion of population in the world watches porn so according to a few closeminded people here, us guys are unhealthy, we won't have a successful relationship, and we are cheaters. Just ridicoulous how you know what we think and why we do this. Get real.


idk. I will be devasted if my bf sees porn but as long as its not my bf, who cares, rite?

Edited by Ait Wang, 05 January 2013 - 01:52 PM.
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#49 UDntNeedaNo

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:28 AM

I think porn is fine. *Watching porn right now.*
I like it. *Skipping to the end for the ejaculation part.*
Yeah, it's good. *Next porn vid.*

#50 Nitikie

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:31 AM

So let me get this straight:

watching porn = cheating
Thinking of another person = cheating
Gossiping about hot guys and or girls = cheating
Just looking at a hot person while in a relationship = partial or full on cheating intent
Thinking man I wouldn't mind tapping that ass = cheating
So to not cheat on your partner you need to rape them when they don't want to have sex with you? Sounds about right! Ding ding ding we got a winner! Rape your partner!!

There are many healthy relationships and the guy still uses porn and the wife allowing it why? Because she isn't able to let him have her. Periods for one especially a turn off for most, not all but most guys in general. When she isn't in the mood or doesn't want it. Work exhaustion. There are females who can't have sex it's a rare condition, but they are married happily. Oral sure but I'm sure that he isn't completly satisfied but put up with it, it's his choice as it is our choice but no ones place to say its cheating when it's not with anyone to begin with except for their own hand.

Trust has nothing to do with porn unless someone gets insecure which is the same as not trusting their partner, jealousy issues again all scream out trust issues. Not innocent? He or she is hurting who when it's their own hand? Their partner when they don't want to do the deed with them but trust that they can handle it themself while not going out for a one night stand?

Your examples are extremes. Rare conditions when one chooses to rather jerk off then get the real thing from their partner whom is willing.

#51 daydreamgirls

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:54 AM

I don't think it's called cheating if guys watch the porn to help them masturbate when their partner are away or something or doesn't want to have intercourse. It's called cheating when guys have sex with some girls or go out with them behind their girlfriend/wife's back.

#52 DrBroscientist

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:57 AM

There is nothing wrong with watching porn. Watching porn does not make you a cheater. It's called "FANTASY" for a reason. Now as far as the dating websites that is going to the extreme, that's a no-no..Hey I'm a girl and I have an extensive library...if you want some videos hit me up. I'll hook you up! LOL


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:05 AM

2. Why is it that men juatify porn on the basis of their inability to exercise sexual restraint? You are NOT obligated by some dire life threatening uncontrollable sexual impulse that you HAVE to wank (with the aid of porn no less) right this instant or die or your dolphin will fall off or something. Just won't happen. Instead of turning to something so disgusting and exploitative try just exercising self control. You might actually benefit from it.


Actually masturbation for men is healthy since it is just that little extra help to prevent testicular cancer.

#54 DrBroscientist

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:18 PM

^So...don't watch porn, don't use your imagination, and then it's alright for you to fap.

Brb fapping to my furniture.

Edited by DrBroscientist, 28 December 2012 - 12:23 PM.


#55 daydreamgirls

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:11 PM

If you won't allow your guy to watch the porn or let them to masturbate they will find someone else who allow them to watch the porn and let them masturbate and let them to have that freedom. It's your own fault for your guy to cheat on you when you are so strict with him.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:15 PM

http://img.photobuck...b175/kermit.gif

OMG, haha, I will never look at kermit the same way now! Posted Image

Ah yes about him going on dating websites, I'll be more worried about that than him watching porn!

Got me thinking, is he trying to look for someone better than you or is he getting some kicks of looking at random single ladies and flirting with them ??????

#57 MadameMary

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:49 PM

That quote is a little dramatic,
Really this whole ''porn'' is cheating thing sounds ridiculous and i think hardly anyone watching porn really imagines having sex with the porn actors in it.
Most just watch it for the ''deed'' itself.

I've watched allot of porn and i have never imagined being with any of the men.. that is why i wouldn't mind it if my boyfriend would watch it.

#58 DrBroscientist

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:05 AM

Pls, a random quote of an emasculated beta fuk of a man is hardly evidence. There are forums where men talk about getting cuckolded (i.e. having their wife/gf fuk another guy while they watch) and forums where they talk about their wife dominating them (in all aspects of life, from money to sex to what they can watch etc).

http://www.cuckold-f...rum_default.php

Your example is shoddy at best.

Edited by DrBroscientist, 29 December 2012 - 02:09 AM.


#59 Nitikie

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:50 PM

I have to say thats a poor example of a quote from a guy. If he was sincere do or say so in person not in writing and most of it sounds like he wrote it because it's what the women wanted to hear. It's been edited to read that way and try and touch the female heart. I'm no sucker to that stuff personally.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:34 AM

This is why I love asianfanatics.net and it's hard to leave it, threads like this are great, and the great original posts and replies Posted Image .

OP:
About your boyfriend, it's not the porn that I personally think you should worry about. Guys will whack off to porn whether they're happy with the girl, think the world of her, and live every minute of his waking life for her, or not. Girls will whack off to porn, still even if it's the man of their dreams. It's just not a worry, it's just popular culture now, which is totally devoid of real emotions and real feelings, so if he took you seriously from the start, he would use porn and take you seriously regardless, but if he didn't take you seriously, still the porn would never have had anything to do with it, as that would have been from the start.

Now here's the thing I really think you should worry about. He's using dating websites, although, according to you, you are 'boyfriend and girlfriend status'. That's a serious thing. He's signed up to many dating sites as you say, and received many messages. This is a totally incompetent boyfriend. As a man, I can tell you that what he is essentially saying is that he has 'committed' (notice the quote, then un-quote) to you, but he is not assigning that commitment totally to you as he should, but opening up multiple possibilities of commitment, and possibly a non-committed sexual relationship, to a lot of random women he doesn't know from Adam. Now that's a truly sad thing of him to do. He doesn't care about you, because from what you've told me, he must have done this after you got together. So dump his 'incompetent boyfriend' ass.

Also, the fact that he had his email already open, and right there were his dating emails and reply emails, and not that far back in his email list, means that his activity on the dating sites cannot have been very long ago. But just to be sure, look at all of the email dates and times. This is important, because then you can compare them to when your relationship started. There are so many ways of how he can fabricate and manipulate his email activity a bit also. Simple, the first one is if he's received 200 replies from daters from those sites, already, that you were unaware of, all he had to do was not only delete the received emails in his email inbox, but also on the site inbox, and also delete all of the sent and received emails on the sites too. That would make it look like the 40 or 50 emails you saw were the only ones.

So only from the dating activity, please dump this guy. He's not worth it.

Xiaoli:
There was one comment you made suggesting that honest, decent men with no relationship problems do not look at porn. Well I don't know the story here, but I'm imagining that it's possible some guys have told you that they don't. Well just beware because there's a lot of men out there that lie through their teeth even after giving off the pretense that they're some perfect guy. These are the guys that will still use porn in secret, and be experts at concealing the use. As a guy, I know there's almost no such thing as a guy who's never used porn in their lives! Just telling you that because I think knowing that about men in general will benefit you.

Edited by behappyman 2.0, 30 December 2012 - 01:39 AM.


#61 DrBroscientist

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:52 AM

Alcohol is physically addictive, it impairs your judgement, and damages your body. Porn is none of the above.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:26 PM

there are a whole host of other things going on both in the guy's life and in his relationship when a guy starts locking himself away with his computer to wank in secret.


Yes.. many things.. one of them being that he has a girlfriend with a mindset like yours so he is shamed for wanting to have a quick fap and is forced to do it ''locked away in secret''.
Otherwise i doubt the guy would ''hide away'' he could just do it in his/her or a shared bedroom/bathroom without shame.
People who watch porn watch it for the act itself not for the actors.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:14 AM

If a man lived up to xiaoli's ideals, he either lacks a pair of balls or just shot himself in the head with a rifle. Xiaoli wants a eunuch from Imperial China. You know, the ones without a cock and testicles.

Edited by teddyc, 31 December 2012 - 07:15 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:42 AM

Porn damages your ability to get and maintain an erection. It damages your ability to have a normal sexual relationship with a normal woman and it is, if not physically addictive, certainly mentally addictive. It damages your ability to relate with women on an emotional level - oh wait none of you care about that ... let me stick with .. it makes your dick malfunction when confronted with a real woman.

Reading your post damages my brain's ability to process logical thoughts.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:03 AM

I don't believe some guys won't go on porn sites or read the playboys magazine. They have to be gay or something.

You need to watch out and be careful if he still go on dating sites and ask the ladies out.

#66 DrBroscientist

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:53 AM

Porn damages your ability to get and maintain an erection. It damages your ability to have a normal sexual relationship with a normal woman and it is, if not physically addictive, certainly mentally addictive. It damages your ability to relate with women on an emotional level - oh wait none of you care about that ... let me stick with .. it makes your dick malfunction when confronted with a real woman.


The broscience is over 9000 in this one.

I can assure you I have no trouble maintaining an erection and watch porn frequently. As for the rest of your claims, lol pls.

Edited by DrBroscientist, 02 January 2013 - 11:53 AM.


#67 behappyman 2.0

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:24 PM

Porn damages your ability to get and maintain an erection. It damages your ability to have a normal sexual relationship with a normal woman and it is, if not physically addictive, certainly mentally addictive. It damages your ability to relate with women on an emotional level - oh wait none of you care about that ... let me stick with .. it makes your dick malfunction when confronted with a real woman.


I've stopped caring about anything you say. So please don't think this hurts lol. If it's not sabotaging JSBach's thread for no reason, it's sabotaging other posters for offering advice. But from experience, those who accuse others, like the garbage above, have more than enough sexual skeletons in their closet. Hypocrites will always throw stones from glass houses.

Edited by behappyman 2.0, 02 January 2013 - 01:02 PM.