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[TVB] Lofty Waters Verdant Bow 雲海玉弓緣 (2002)


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#241 foreverleila

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 08:43 PM

I thought this series was a very good one especially with Raymond and Michelle in it. I thought the series was going on well when I watch the ending. Why did Michelle have to die? She totally didn't deserved to die in this series. I mean yeah she did some bad things but she didn't want to and because of Raymond she stopped doing things to them that would harm Raymond. She was willing to sacrifice anything and if it was for her life for Raymond.

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Posted 31 May 2008 - 05:19 PM

This serie really changed a lot from the novel. however, i like the fact they somehow kept the ending of the novel as i thought the ending is really touching and sad and memorable... but i am also disappointed that it did not do the novel part that is prior to the end where she challenges the tianshan sect master...
i really like michelle as li shengnan....

Honestly, who does Ray really love? Rain or Michelle? At the end when Michelle dies, does he finally realize that he actually loves Michelle or because he felt guilty?

In the novel, it says that jin shiyi real love is li shengnan... in the novel it explains that jin shiyi feeling for gu zhihua is a kind of respectful kind. jin shiyi thought that gu zhihua is a ideal wife and thus his feeling would tend to lean against her... but his love for li shengnan is developed naturally... and in the novel his character is kind of similar to the character of li shengnan... jin shiyi had always had a feeling: "li shengnan's shadow is always following him, it seem her shadow never disappear..."
also the ending in the novel got a part, where li shengnan ask jin shiyi to go over to her which is after their wedding, jin shiyi kiss her and this made li shengnan realise that jin shiyi does really love her....

hmm my english is quite weak thus i do make a bad translator..
i would post the chinese ending here:

大礼告成,喜筵早设,侍女说道:“小姐,你和姑爷进房歇歇,再出来敬酒吧。”金世遗默默地随着她走,却见厉胜男似是把一个纸团交给了她的侍女。

金世遗心道:“不管你耍什么花招,我的主意是打定的了。”厉胜男走进新房,将恃女遣开,虚掩上房门,柔声问道:“世遗,你还在恨我吗?”金世遗不答。厉胜男叹口气道:“不管你怎样恨我,我今天总是做成功了你的妻子,我也就心满意足了。”金世遗冷冷说道:“不错,你是成功了!如今你总应该拿出解药了吧?”

厉胜男凄然说道:“早知如此,我真后悔从荒岛回来。”金世遗恨恨说道:“你现在不是样样都称心如意了么?”厉胜男道:“不错,但是到头来都是空的。世遗,要是咱们仍在荒岛上朝夕相对,那有多好!”金世遗心里也在暗自叹息道:“谁叫你变成这个样子?往日的情份,已似大江东去,一去不回了。”心里是如此想,但却不得不哄骗她道:“咱们做了夫妻,相对的日子长着呢。你给我解药,让我办了这桩事情,也好旱些回来伴你。”

厉胜男又叹口气道:“世遗,你不要骗我了!”眼圈红润,泫然欲滴,金世遗接触到她幽怨的眼光,禁不住心中感到有些歉意,在此之前,他是从来也没有骗过厉胜男的,但此时此际,他却不得不再硬着头皮说道:“我骗你什么?咱们不是已拜堂做了夫妻么?”

厉胜男若有所思,过了一会,方始拿出一方玉匣,说道:“解药在这里面,还有几件东西是给你的。”金世遗无暇问她是什么东西,连忙伸手来接,厉胜男忽道:“世遗,我盼望你能够依我几件事情。”

金世遗大吃一惊,叫道:“怎么,你又变卦了?”只道她又要出些什么难题。厉胜男微笑道:“不是变卦,你别着慌,你好好听我的说话,不管我说些什么,你都不许打岔。世遗,不管如何,咱们总是有过一场情份,难道你连听我说几句话的耐心也没有了?”

金世遗看她神情非常奇特,心里惊疑不定,摊开手道:“好,说吧!
厉胜男道:“我知道你欢喜谷姐姐,我也愿意你们两人有个好结果,只望你将来在鸳鸯枕畔,月下花前,能偶然的想我一下,想起曾经有过一个非常爱你的人,那,我就、我就会感激你不尽了!”

金世遗愠道:“到了今日这般田地,你还说这些话干嘛?”厉胜男苦笑道:“你以为我是妒忌她吗?不,我说的每一句话都是心里的话。好了,你讲好了不打岔的,请听我再说。”

金世遗隐隐觉得她的面色有点不对,惊疑不定之际,只听得她接着说道:“世遗,答应我一件事情,我要你好好保重自己,不论发生什么事情,你都要泰然置之,你答应我吗?”

金世遗心头颤战,暗自想道:“难道她已知道了我有自杀的念头?难道是之华中毒已深,无可解救了?”

厉胜男道:“你答应吧,你答应我才放心把解药给你。”金世遗迟疑半晌,道:“好,我答应你。”

厉胜男露出一丝笑意,说道:“世遗,我还盼望你在武学上更下苦功,你将来会成为一位超越前人的武学大师的,我曾经是你的妻子,到你成功之日,不论我在什么地方,我也会同你一样高兴。”

金世遗听她说得非常诚恳,心想:“难道她想把乔北溟的秘发交给我?”金世遗虽然并不稀罕,却也深深感动,当下说道:“多谢你的好意,多谢你的期望,我尽力去做就是。”话是如此说。其实他还未打消自尽的念头。

厉胜男吁了口气,道:“你是最重信诺的人,你答应了,我就放心了。”金世遗心中抱愧,极力抑制着自己,不让她看出自己是言不由衷。

厉胜男道,“好了,这玉匣你拿去吧。”金世遗接了过来,道:“你还有什么活要说吗?我要走了!”

厉胜男道:“你过来,让我再看你一眼,啊,让我亲一亲你!”金世遗本来已是憎恨她的了,不知怎的,这时却是心情激动之极,情不自禁的亲了她一下。

这刹那间,厉胜男的眼角眉梢,都充满了笑意,便似一朵盛开的玫瑰,她低声说道:“世遗,你其实也是爱我的啊!”突然笑容收敛,盛开的玫瑰倾刻之间便枯萎了!

金世遗惊骇莫名,只觉在他怀抱之中的厉胜男已是渐渐僵冷!

原来厉胜男在和唐晓澜比拼内功之时,用了“天魔解体大法,”全身精血败坏,内伤极重,全仗着她的邪门内功,才勉强支持到此时此刻。现在她心事己了,真气一散,立即便玉殒香销!

金世遗这一惊非同小可,叫道:“胜男、胜男!你要什么?你要什么?我都可以答应你!”可怜厉胜男却不会答应他了!

这刹那间,金世遗但觉顶门“轰轰”作响,眼前金花飞舞,似乎自己的灵魂也脱离了躯壳,没有了思想,甚至没有了感觉,哭也哭不出声!

房门忽地打开,厉胜男那八个侍女涌了进来,为首的失声叫道:“小姐果然死了!”原来厉胜男交给她贴身丫鬟的那个纸团,就是吩咐她们替她料理后事的。她预先和那丫鬟说好,要等待房内有喊声传出,才可以将纸团打开。

金世遗猛地叫道:“胜男,我对不住你!”抱着她的尸身,不由自己的又吻下去,厉胜男的侍女哭叫道:“都是你这厮害了我们的小姐!”登时有几柄长剑指到他的身前。金世遗面对着明晃晃的剑尖,动也不动,他这时眼睛里只有一个厉胜男,对外间的一切,他都没有感觉了。

那丫鬟叫道:“小姐吩咐,不可杀他。”上前夺下了厉胜男的尸身,说道:“小姐说,她的事不用你再管了,她叫你遵守她临终的遗言,你赶快走吧!”

金世遗捶胸哭道:“胜男,你安心去吧,我如今承认你是我的妻子了!你们将她埋葬,墓碑留空,等我来立。”

the part where jin shi yi go and fing gu zhihua and made his feelings known to her

金世遗道:“是的,我很高兴。你的灾难消除,我的罪过也可以减轻了。”他嘴里说高兴,眼圈已经红润了。

谷之华怔了一怔,说道:“世遗,你还因为我所受的灾难感到抱歉吗?这不是你的罪过,这都是那位,那位厉姑娘,厉姑娘……。”

金世遗不待她说出“罪过”二字,便即抢着说道:“不,之华,你不知道——”谷之华道:“不知道什么?”金世遗道:“她的过错,就是我的过错!你不要再怪她了,她所犯的罪,都应该由我承担!”

金世遗说得如此认真,如此哀痛,谷之华登时感到一般寒意透上心头,她呆了半晌,忽地颤声问道:“世遗,你的解药是怎样得来的?是她甘心情愿交给你的么?”

金世遗点了点头道:“是的。”谷之华道:“哦,那么,现在她呢?”金世遗道:“她吗?她、她、她已经死了!”

一滴晶莹的泪珠从金世遗的眼角流下来,这刹那间,谷之华什么都明白了,她虽然不知道厉胜男是如何死的,但她已知道了金世遗对厉胜男实在是有着一份真情!

金世遗低声说道:“之华,我一直很敬爱你,以后也永不会变。可是我已经答应了一个人,不是当面答应她,而是在她死后,心里头答应她了,我这一生,除了她之外,是再也不能有第二个人了!之华,之华!你,你、你可能谅解我这份心情?”

金世遗含着眼泪,断断续续他说道:“我是在她临死之前,和她举行了婚礼的。那时,我,我并不知道她将死,只是想骗取她的解药。唉——虽然并非我亲手杀她,她总是因我而死!在我和她行婚礼的时候,我也没有叫她一声妻子,但在她死后,我要承认她是我的妻子了。”

谷之华身躯微微颤战,但她却忍住了眼泪,柔声说道:“大丈夫当重言诺,你既然和她定了名份,又在心里头答应了她,那自是该当把她当作妻子看待。世遗,我感激你来看我,也感激厉姑娘终于肯把解药给我,世遗,我永远都会把你当作最好的朋友,你不必为我担忧,我受得下的!”
金世遗道:“之华,你比我坚强得多,要不是你这么说,我却几乎受不了。啊,之华,我永远永远都会敬爱你!”他紧紧地握了她的手一下,眼泪滴在她的手背上,随即便出了房门。

直到金世遗去得远了,谷之华方始哭得出来!不错,她是比金世遗坚强,但是她的伤心,只怕更在金世遗之上!

The ending part where he buried li shengnan

一个月后,在一座新坟的旁边,有一个少年把一块墓碑安上去。这少年便是金世遗,他为这座新坟立下了一块“爱妻厉胜男之墓”的石碑。

坟墓里的厉胜男曾经是他怜悯过、恨过而又爱过的人。在她生前,他并不知道自己爱的是她,在她死后方始发觉了。他现在才知道,他以前一直以为自己爱的是谷之华,其实那是理智多于情感,那是因为他知道谷之华会是个“好妻子”。但是他对厉胜男的感情却是不知不觉中发生的,也可说是厉胜男那种不顾一切的强烈感情将他拉过去的。
他立了墓碑,又在一方玉匣里取出了两卷书,在她墓前焚化,低声说道:“胜男,这是你的东西,你收回去吧。”武林中人梦寐以求的乔北溟的武功秘笈,就这样烧掉了。金世遗不是不稀罕它,但一来他不忍睹物思人,二来他不愿留下这种邪派秘笈贻祸人间,他已经通晓了秘笈的上乘心法,他要循着正派武功的途径,融合秘笈心法,另创一门光明正大的武功。

他烧了秘笈,独力(谐音)墓前,宛如一尊石像,阳光把他的影子拉得长长的。

他呆呆地望着自己的影于,那影子忽然变了厉胜男的影子,他是生生死死也摆不开这个影子了。正是:
此情可待成追忆,只是当时已惘然。

Above credits to Baidu forum
http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=354839697

Edited by susan_snowrain, 31 May 2008 - 05:21 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2008 - 09:43 AM

I've watched this series twice, and I still like Rain and Raymond together. Even though the end didn't show that afterward Raymond eventually married to Rain, but I think in the book it did.

I'm watching The Patriotic Knights, and it's like a sequel to Lofty Water Verdant Bow. The Patriotic Knights with Li NanShin (Wallace Zhong) as a newphew of Li ShenNan and Jin ZhuLiu as the son of Jin ShiYi and Kok JiWah.
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 03:52 AM

I've watched this series twice, and I still like Rain and Raymond together. Even though the end didn't show that afterward Raymond eventually married to Rain, but I think in the book it did.

I'm watching The Patriotic Knights, and it's like a sequel to Lofty Water Verdant Bow. The Patriotic Knights with Li NanShin (Wallace Zhong) as a newphew of Li ShenNan and Jin ZhuLiu as the son of Jin ShiYi and Kok JiWah.


In the book [雲海玉弓緣] Lofty Water Verdant Bow, the ending ends with Jin Shiyi staying by Li Shengnan tomb. However its sequel, [冰河洗劍錄], it continue the story of Jin Shiyi, Li Shengnan and Gu Zhihua and the addition of Jiang Nan's son as the main character in the story. However in the book [冰河洗劍錄] also shows how Jin Shiyi and Gu Zhihua get together... The book [俠骨膽心] The Patriotic Knights is a sequel to [冰河洗劍錄] which Jin Shiyi and Gu Zhihua's son, Jin Zhuliu is the main character...
In the book [俠骨膽心] it had said that Jin Shiyi and Gu Zhihua married at the same day with Jiang Nan's son Jiang Haitian...

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 09:06 PM

Lofty Waters Verdant Bow is pretty good. Michelle doesn't have positive character traits and this show compared to Herbalist's Manual and Eternal Happiness, it's pretty bad.
The sequel " The Patriotic Knights" doesn't consist of our favourite casts... :thumbdown

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 03:28 AM

I love this series I think raymond lam in ancient series are good just like twins of brother. I really like the fact that his master is pretty mysterious and his kungfu in the series is really high.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 02:21 PM

i was watching this series again for the 3rd time, and i think raymond did loved michelle but he was heart broken when he found out her identity and how she used him (so he think she did), so after that he lean his feelings towards rain, by the time he founf out about michelle he feel guilty and think he should do something for her after she died, so to conclude this, the ending seemed like ray feeling guilty that why he left with michelle, but he does also love rain.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 07:02 PM

This series has some really catchy background music, too bad TVB has stopped making these addictive tunes.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 10:16 PM

For those who live in the USA, Direct TV is currently rebroadcasing this series. You can watch it in the morning at 9:30 or in the evening at 10:35. It's either on channels 450 or 451.

I'm so glad that Direct TV is rebroadcasting this series. I really want to see Michelle and Raymond together. Their chemistry was pretty good in this series, wasn't it?

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Posted 28 June 2009 - 09:36 PM

Awww, that's a sad ending, Lai Shing Nam was starting to grow on me...
Sadly someone's taped over the rest of my tapes so I won't get to see what happens after episode 5 :crying:

Does anyone have a link where I can watch the rest or a download link?

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:08 PM

I DON'T KNOW WHAT RAIN LI EVER DID TO YA LOSERS BUT HEY DON'T HATE!!! I WATCHED THIS SERIES AND THOUGHT HER ACTING IS PRETTY GOOD TOO! IT'S HER ROLE, OKAY?! SHE CAN'T BE ANOTHER ASSASSIN LIKE MICHELLE SO SHUT UP! JUST BECAUSE SHE GETS THE INNOCENT PART, DOESN'T MEAN THAT SHE CAN'T ACT!!! So... GET LOST AND STOP COMPLAINING!

For Michelle, I don't like her expression on this series because there is a part of her face that I don't like, but her acting was good.

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 03:42 PM

Ah, this is on for me on weekdays. But they only air half an episode, so the other half airs the next day. I wish they aired all of the episode. Makes it complicated because I don't know what episode I'm on. :/ I remember watching this before heh. ^_^ I've always liked Rain and I liked Ray and Michelle in Eternal Happiness. : )

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 04:09 PM

this series has 20 episodes.

if they only air it half so it would be 40 episodes

Episode 1 = 1 & 2
Episode 2 = 3 & 4
Episode 3 = 5 & 6
Episode 4 = 7 & 8
Episode 5 = 9 & 10

and so on....lol

just need to do simple maths...let's say they have already aired until episode 32. 32 divided by 2 = 16. It means they have aired it until episode 16.

Another example: They have aired it until episode 33. There will be a remaining if divided by 2, 16.5. It means they have already aired it until episode 16 and half.

Edited by Ichihara Yūko, 12 August 2009 - 04:15 PM.


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Posted 12 August 2009 - 04:17 PM

Thanks. : ) So instead of taking a month to finish, it'll take up 2 months. And I saw Ron in the episode! He pretty much looks the same. ^_^ I think I'm on episode 2. I think I'm just going to find it somewhere and watch all of it. Despite the sad ending.

Yeah hahaah I get it. But the thing is I didn't start watching from the beginning. So I have no idea where to start counting. But it doesn't matter, I think I'm at the beginning. I just need to find the episodic summaries somewhere. ^^

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 09:21 AM

Ron is in episode 2. So it's at the beginning....

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 04:55 AM

Besides Eternal Happiness, I re-watch this series many times. Love RM<3

Edited by naasej, 05 April 2011 - 05:20 AM.